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senator thune. a fiscal cliff deal is a new way calculating inflation that would lower social security payments. democrats say they would do it as part of much bigger deal but it was off the table for the smaller deal they are working on. so democrats called it a poison pill. >> at some point, negotiating process, it appears there are things that stopped us from moving forward. i hope we're not there, but we're getting real close. that is why i still hold out hope we can get something done, but i'm not overly optimistic but i'm cautiously optimistic. >> chuck schumer from new york continues to say the things, meaning a deal, always happens at the end. >> gregg: we'll probably hear about the change of cpi which is basically a new way of calculating an index the cost of living and slowing down the growth of sbph like social security. we'll probably hear about. mike, thanks very much. >> arthel: we're going to the white house where president obama is holding firm to his demand and blaming republicans for the failure to reach a deal. the president also appearing on a political talk show th
as lawmakers struggle to hammer out a deal on the fiscal cliff. peter barnes believes the president will announce a deal. we will bring you his comments live. it is an early close on the trading day. sandra smith is in the pits where traders are watching every development in washington. she joins us now with today's trade and how commodities are faring. sandra: we just had financial commodities close for the day. the treasury pits just closed minutes ago. it was an interesting close to watch. as you put up the board, treasuries saw their first loss in four trading days. another sign that these markets are predicting some sort of deal to get down by the end of the day. we are not seeing investors slinging. the yield on the ten year was the lowest close on record. certainly a big sign coming from those markets. they closed at the top of the hour. the dow, s&p and nasdaq futures closing here in chicago. just moments away from that. the electronic trading of all of these products will continue and have their mourner hundred normal trading hours of the day. we are watching gold prices. t
sandy and we're dealing with the fiscal cliff, as well. what do you think the big driver was of these slower growth numbers? >> well, good morning. yes, you hit on two of the big ones. really the season tripped coming out of the starting gate with hurricane sandy. the impact in the northeast and mid-atlantic, both those regions of the country actually had negative holiday seasons for the holiday-related sectors that we track. other areas of the country that were not impacted by significant weather in the southeast, south central, mountain and west, were up 2% to 4% year over year. so really depended on where you were in the country, how but during the holiday season. >> okay. that's definitely interesting to look at, the regional breakdown. i also want to talk about promotions. every year we see the promotions start, it seems, earlier, and discounts are a little deeper. at the end of the day when we're tabulating these numbers, are deep discounts really the way to go, or does it end up hurting the retailers in the end? >> i think a couple of events, the weakness in the fi
in washington. there's no deal, no new offer on the fiscal cliff crisis. president obama has just told the two senate leaders they should make the deal. the results immediately felt in the financial markets. look where the dow closed down 158 points when it became very clear nothing was happening and now take a look at where the numbers are in the after markets. we would open now down 315 points on the dow if we started trading now. down 315 points. we have much more on this throughout the rest of the program, but the market's very unhappy. we do have some good news to report tonight. looks like at least one cliff has been averted for the time being. the so-called container cliff. the union that represents dock workers and u.s. maritime lines came to an agreement today to extend their current contract for 30 days. this is a big relief now for the retail industry and consumers who were staring at real destruction again for the supply chain. here now is jonathan gold and he's vice president of supply chain and customs policy for the national retail federation. jonathan, good to see you. >> miche
of the year, hoping for a fiscal cliff deal. the dow jones industrial average gained 166 points to close at 13,104, up 7% for the year. the nasdaq rose 59 points to close at 3019, up nearly 16% this year. nearly two dozen people died in a string of attacks across iraq today. most of the violence targeted shiite communities and police. one of the blasts rocked baghdad's karrada neighborhood, sending smoke billowing above the skyline. the car bomb went off near a tent where shiite pilgrims were gathering. five people were killed there. in syria, elite troops, along with tanks, battled to dislodge rebels from a key southern suburb of damascus. the area is within firing distance of major government sites in the capital. amateur video also showed the aftermath of what appeared to be air strikes in the northeastern suburb of douma. the attacks toppled buildings and sent civilians fleeing. celebrations began today as the new year, 2013, dawned around the globe. we have a report from richard pallot of independent television news. . >> here we go! >> reporter: a perfect summer's night ushering in 2013
. >> holman: wall street rallied on the final trading day of the year, hoping for a fiscal cliff deal. the dow jones industrial average gained 166 points to close at 13,104, up 7% for the year. the nasdaq rose 59 points to close at 3019, up nearly 16% this year. nearly two dozen people died in a string of attacks across iraq today. most of the violence targeted shiite communities and police. one of the blasts rocked baghdad's karrada neighborhood, sending smoke billowing above the skyline. the car bomb went off near a tent where shiite pilgrims were gathering. five people were killed there. in syria, elite troops, along with tanks, battled to dislodge rebels from a key southern suburb of damascus. the area is within firing distance of major government sites in the capital. amateur video also showed the aftermath of what appeared to be air strikes in the northeastern suburb of douma. the attacks toppled buildings and sent civilians fleeing. celebrations began today as the new year, 2013, dawned around the globe. we have a report from richard pallot of independent television news. . >> here we g
at all. all eyes on the approaching fiscal cliff with just under eight hours left to make a deal. we've got you covered from capitol hill, we're going to be speaking live with congressmen from both sides of the aisle, representative tim hulz camp, mick mulvaney and dennis kucinich. david: also wilbur ross, chairman and ceo of -- [inaudible] and the former chairman of the white house council of economic advisers. i tell you, we get the prime guests right here. ed lazear says tax hikes hurt growth. find out just how much. liz: rich edson live on capitol hill with the very latest on the fiscal cliff countdown. larry shover live in the pits of the cme, and what action we saw, wow, and we've got more than $100 billion worth of advice from our market panel, bill greiner and sandy lincoln. but first, let's talk to rich edson and, rich, you know, you're looking at a situation at the moment where you have the president saying we're close, but no deal. you have senator mitch mcconnell on the republican side saying close, but no deal. leads me to ask, what about joe biden? our vice president? h
of americans who think congress will negotiate a deal on the fiscal cliff. that's not all, holiday spending also hit its lowest rate since the 2008 recession, which retailers are blaming on the uncertainty in washington. so where do we go from here? well, since the house failed to get a vote on the tax package last week, all eyes are on the senate. a temporary deal that would basically extend all the tax cuts for those making under a quarter million. the deal would also rescue long-term unemployment benefits and instead of addressing those automatic spending cuts we've all heard about that are set for january 1st, this temporary deal would delay them for another six months. few are optimistic this new plan, if we do go over the clifr, would work out. so what would half if we go over the cliff? the payroll tax holiday will expire on new year's day. that means most people will start paying more taxes in each paycheck. another 21 million americans would lose federal emergency unemployment benefits and those, let's remember, are people struggling the most right now. across the entire economy go
'm arthel nevil. it's down to the wire for fiscal cliff deal. lawmakers are trying to draft a plan under the deadline. president obama says he is optimistic they will come to an agreement if not, deep spending cuts will kick in for nearly every american. helpis one step closer for super storm sandy. senate passing a bill to provide $60.4 billion in aid for states impacted by the disaster. bill now has to pass through the house of representatives. hurricane sandy was blamed for at least 120 deaths in areas from north carolina to maine, new york, new jersey and connecticut. i'm arthel nevil, now back to fox news watch. for all the latest log on to foxnews.com. i'll see you right here at 4:00 p.m. eastern alongside gregg jarrett. >> we will make sure that f there is anything is needed we get it out immediately. i want to thank you for everything you've done and we appreciate that. >> connecticut state police lieutenant paul advance talking to people. the killer committed suicide as police closed in on him. one of many tragedies that received major attention this year. it's a challenge for t
and raises the stakes for the fiscal cliff end game because the white house had wanted a debt ceiling deal as part of the overall deal here on the fiscal cliff. republicans have been resisting that by announcing the debt ceiling limit will be held on monday, ratchets up the pressure to include the debt ceiling piece in the final package, whatever that may be, but still not clear, carl, there is going to be a final package of any kind. one quick note, we saw the realism. pact in the real world of the debt situation. treasury announcing yesterday it has suspended the sale of state and local government securities, government series securities. so already, they are doing some maneuvering here financially to try to avoid that debtly limit. the treasury secretary says he doesn't know how much wiggle room they are going to have, given that all the fiscal cliff uncertainty is out there. >> eamon, on this idea that the house members get called back with 48 hours' notice. traders are looking for that headline if it happens almost that bleed out there or procedural moment where that is announced, so
. the president said he is modestly optimistic about a fiscal cliff deal getting done before new year's eve. >> clayton: they all said the same thing. presidential meeting with the leaders yesterday. harry reid. >> juliet: vice president showed up. >> clayton: they must have been all on the same table hey whether we lee this table we will say modestly optimistic. listen to senator mitch mcconnell who may be the linchpin of this whole thing. he said i will take the ball and run with it in the senate. get a deal done. listen to the senator. >> we had a good meeting at the white house. we are engaged in discussions the majority leader and myself and the white house in the hopes that we can come forward sunday and have a recommendation that i can make to my conference and the majority leader can make to his conference. we will be working hard to see if we can get there in the next 24 hours. so i'm hopeful and optimistic. >> charles krauthammer calling him a master negotiator. saying if it were left up to him he could solve the syrian civil war in a weekend. >> dave: he can get it done but there
. washington did not get a fiscal cliff deal for christmas so that means president obama and lawmakers will need to kick it to overdrive to get something done by new year's. this is easier said than done. >> after weeks of bitterness, this is not a contest of the parties between who looks good and who doesn't. >> the only thing both sides agree on now is christmas may provide a cooling off period. >> ebb can drink eggnog. have christmas cookies. sing christmas carols. enjoy company of loved ones. >> hope springers eternal. >> when the christmas trees come down tomorrow from waikiki beach and elsewhere, the nation will be staring at the cliff that economists warned could spark a new recession. the fact is both sides are further apart than the holiday messages suggest. this puts the speaker in a box leading to collapse of plan "a" of $4 trillion debt deal and the slimmeded-down plan "b." >> in the course, i offered to compromise with republicans in congress. i met them halfway on taxes and more than halfway on spen spending. >> boehner is saying that the stumbling block will lead to taxe
're going to end up with a small, kick-the-can, down-the- road bill to make another fiscal cliff to deal with this fiscal cliff. >> reporter: with expectation low, lawmakers are talk about how to retroactively fix any damage done by going over the cliff with congress. nicole collins, fox news. >>> developing tonight, a strike that could have shut down ports up and down the east coast is averted for now. the long shoreman's union along the east coast and gulf of mexico will extend the current contract for 30 days. that extension prevents a possible strike that could have crippled operations at port and including the port of baltimore. in a statement today, the maryland governor martin o'malley wrote, quote, the port of baltimore continues to be a major part of the state economic strait generating and supporting thousands of jobs. during the extended period, we hope long-term resolutions can be reached for the hardworking families who depend on jobs and commerce linked to the port of baltimore. >>> to the state of the skins. it's the hottest ticket in town. the redskins play host sunday ni
. the top headline on politico is fiscal cliff deal increasingly unlikely. i think a lot of people are feeling that pessimism right now. what are you hearing? >> well, i think what you've got here, alena, is a nash equilibrium to borrow from economic theory and game theory. each of the players believe they are pursuing their optimal strategies given the strategies of the other players and there's no reason to change it. i think as observers of this, the american public, you can say there's a real reason to change it. in terms of the politicians, i think they're pursuing their best strategy right now and that leads us toward that cliff. unless something changes in the next couple of days, most folks now believe that any fix will happen after january 1st. >> the house gop leadership put out a statement yesterday. i want to read part of it for you. it says in part, the house has acted on two bills which collectively would avert the entire fiscal cliff if enacted. those bills await action by the senate. if the senate will not approve, and send them to the president to be signed into la
'll know if there's a deal on the fiscal cliff or not and what either outcome means for you and your money. we'll talk to sheila bair, former fdic chairwoman. and texas congressman lloyd daggett. so much to talk about tomorrow. i certainly hope a deal has been done. >> nice to work with you. >> are you going to go to times square? >> i'm going to run the park. 2013 starts with a run. i conned my wife into it as well. she'll join me. >> happy new year to you. >> cnn newsroom with suzanne malveaux begins now. >>> happy new year. stories we're watching now. hours by hour, inch by inch, the nation sliding closer to the fiscal cliff. we'll have more on this morning's negotiations and what we'll lose if those talks fail. and workers in some states may see a pay raise but may not notice much of a difference. >>> guns are flying off the shelves after fears of a ban on assault rifles following the sandy hook massacre. we're live at the white house with the latest details. plus this. >> reporter: i'm alina cho in times square, where just hours from now new york will host what is arguably the biggest
and the white house not reaching a deal on the fiscal cliff? do you think it's possible that a compromise will be reached before the deadline? tammy simpson writes -- peggy fleming says -- >> a lot of people fired up obviously over this. >>> traffic is back to normal on the springfield interchange, even while virginia state police continue to investigate a deadly accident there. this happened around 7:00 last night when a tractor-trailer stopped in traffic, was rear- ended by a pickup truck. three people inside the pickup truck died at the scene. the driver of the tractor- trailer was not hurt. >>> d.c. police are offering a $25,000 reward for information leading to the arrest in the shooting death of a capitol hill man. jason emma was shot multiple times the morning of christmas eve. he was found sitting in his car. the vehicle was still running. police think he was killed when two men tried to rob him. the funeral is set for tomorrow at 11:00 in arlington. >>> a disturbing scene out of new york city, where police say a man has died after being pushed onto the subway tracks. it happened
or not there will be a deal to avert the fiscal cliff. now, after that conference call. the house speaker john boehner, his number two eric cantor the majority leader put out a statement putting the onus on president obama and for the reason why there has not been a deal so far. basically saying they can't move forward in the house without some sort of action in the senate the next few days. what they left out of that, unfortunately, is the reason why they are waiting on the senate to do something. the senate coming into session tomorrow, by the way. is that speaker boehner couldn't get enough votes to move forward on a plan to avert the cliff last week. that's why we are where we are right now. the president will be boarding air force one in a few hours. flying overnight back to washington. is he likely to bring together congressional leaders in the next couple days when he he gets back to washington. time is running out, harris. >> harris: no breaking news in any of that. but we did see some today. treasury secretary tim geithner saying we could hit the debt ceiling the day after we follow off the fiscal
to survive economically. >> if an unemployment extension is not included in the fiscal cliff deal, 2.1 million americans will face an immediate loss in federal unemployment insurance. it will result in a cut of $284 a week for the average beneficiary. and that's a lot of dough for the average american. it's important to keep in mind the unemployment cliff is really a cliff, urban a slope. tax increases and other spending cuts will fall into place over time. but not with unemployment insurance. unemployment americans who rely on federal aid will be cut off on january 1st, 2013. however, there is some good news on the unemployment front. the four-week average of job claims dropped to roughly 356,000. it's the lowest level since march 2008. but unfortunately, the national unemployment rate is still 7.7%. and if republicans in congress fail to accuracy millions of unemployed americans will be off to a very rough start for the new year. for more on this let's turn to the reverend dr. haines iii, senior pastor at friendship west baptist church. dr. haines, welcome to the show. >> thank you
on vacation. washington lawmakers are on holiday. there's still no deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. the deadline is a week away. hampton pearson is in washington on the stalemate. >> as early as the day after christmas, congress and the white house will have to start to deal with what president obama called the real consequences of going over that fiscal cliff. >> nobody can get 100% of what they want. and this is not simply a contest between parties in terms of who looks good and who doesn't. there are real world consequences to what we do here. >> a short-term deal won't just focus on tax rates. the end of the payroll tax cut and the impact of the hike in the minimum tax on january 1st. over the weekend, we did hear from some republican moderates who say it may in fact be time to make some kind of a move. >> the president's statement is right, no one wants taxes to go up on the middle class. i don't want them to go up on anybody. but i'm not in the majority in the united states senate and he's the president of the united states. >> now the focus shifted to mitch mcconnell. the se
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for tomorrow. none of which deal with the fiscal cliff. they deal with honoring the last surviving world war i veteran who died last year dealing with drywall safety and things. and there will be a couple meetings again democrats in one room and republicans in the other, and they will try to see if the republican leaders and the democratic leaders have produced if they can possibly sell this to the house of representatives. historically that has been a hard, hard sell. >> you know, you have been keeping us uh prized all morning and all afternoon and in the evening with your e-mails and your blog. one of the things you pointed out today is that it is not necessarily that line of taxes. no one above or below a certain point. but it is the spending cuts that are really the target, that are really the sticking point. why is that? >> that's always the hardest part. back to the 1980s when the deficits have started to explode, there have been four or five pieces of legislation over the past 30 years dating back to hollings that was the first sequester. the republicans in the house of representatives,
a deal on the fiscal cliff? we are going to debate that plus, france says no to high taxes on the rich. could the united states learn something from that? we'll analyze that when we come back. ♪ need not wonder why ♪ ♪ no tim ♪ ♪ you're a heartbreaker, dream maker ♪ >> welcome back to a sunday prime time edition of "the five." and as the clock ticks down and going over the so-called fiscal cliff. no deal he yet, but there is some finger pointing going on. >> i'm concerned about the lack of urgency here. i think we all know we're running out of time. this is far too much at stake for political gamesmanship. we need to protect the american families and businesses from this looming tax hike. everyone agrees that that option is necessary. >> i will say this, i think that the republican leader has shown absolutely good faith, but it's just that we're apart on some pretty big issues. >> and senator reid-- >> this has been a blame game from the very, very beginning and dana, we saw today president obama take to the sunday shows and spend the whole time blaming republicans. if we
are trying to negotiate a scaled-down debt deal to avoid some of the fiscal cliff and take other major decisions on taxes and spending to the future. again, in an afternoon white house meeting president obama pitch a debt plan he had outlined a week ago, prevent a tax increase for income of less than to an effective thousand dollars per year and extend long-term unemployment benefits. senate leaders are using that framework to try to craft a proposal to pass both houses of congress. aides say it would likely increase the threshold for tax increases, reversing massive pay cut from medicare doctors, and elections of millions of americans to avoid paying the alternative minimum tax. an increase in the debt ceiling is not part ofhe discussion. that is significant development r house republicans who won any increase in the borrowing limit it accompanied by an equal amount in spending cuts taking the debt ceiling of the table making it much easier for the scaled-down version to be negotiated. from here senate leaders will try to secure an agreement by sunday morning. if so, democrats and rep
they may well just go over the fiscal cliff and deal with it in january after the new congress is sworn in. leaving his family behind to continue their vacation without him, president obama boarded air force one early this morning and headed for washington to deal with unfinished fiscal cliff business. with just five days until the combination of automatic tax increases and spending cuts that could send the economy back into recession, mr. obama wants congress to take the lead in getting the job done. the senate convenes later today and senate majority leader harry reid told members to be prepared to address fiscal cliff issues through the weekend. reid is working on his own plan to get lawmakers to come together before the end of the year deadline. that plan would likely include letting the bush tax cuts expire for households making more than $250,000 a year and short term spending cuts instead of the massive long-term cuts that would happen if there is no deal. after our wednesday conference call, house republican leaders issued a statement saying they were waiti
early this fiscal cliff. consumers are nervous that lawmakers would not be able to reach a deal. >> facebook has poked its way into the top ranks of mobile apps yet again. the social media company put smaller developers on notice last week with the launch of its new pope app for iphone. the app mimics snapchats, a popular app with teens that allow users to send images that will self-destruct moments after the recipient or use it. poke a really rose to #one on iphone. thanks to the aggressive mobil development and cutthroats competitiveness, facebook owned 3 of the top 10 i phone taps of 2012 periods >> the bay area's favorite way to bring the new year is always with kron4. the biggest part is and spectacular fireworks will all be on kron 4 urs new year's live show. this is hosted by catherine he nan and gary radnich. kron4 is on new year's live stars at 1130 on new year's eve. >> we will be right back. >> is 944 8:00 a.m.. christmas celebrations were cut short for president obama. he plans to leave hawaii tonight to return to washington d.c. on thursday. the president is returni
as soon as i get here. and the fiscal cliff deal, and are we going to get it done? we will talk to three top lawmakers and they are not in washington yet. and you have been hearing about the movie "django unchained" and the tarantino film has sparked controversy and also a feud between two top directors. and you will get some alex witt this weekend, because she talked to lester holt about what he got dragged into doing on his thanksgiving vacation. and also a lot of people ringing in the new year, and there are going to be issues with snow. s causing issues with people returning back home after the holidays. get ready. we'll have all that. so yes, melissa, good to see you this weekend. >> thanks, t.j. as t.j. might say, don't sleep on our legendary foot soldier who still inspires us all. by t? by the barrelful? the carful? how about...by the bowlful? campbell's soups give you nutrition, energy, and can help you keep a healthy weight. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. your doctor will say get smart about your weight. that's why there's glucerna hunger smart shakes. they have carb
people are saying this fiscal cliff deal isn't going to happen pause the two sides are too far apart and there simply isn't enough time yet. mark, i will begin with you, what happens if we go over the cliff? what will americans experience? >> well i think we are going to go over the cliff. quite frankly i think it is a good thing the prospects of getting a deal after january 1 are significantly higher and that is for three reasons. first now president obama has all the leverage. after january 1st the leverage shifts to the gop. because president obama perfectly going over the fiscal cliff to blame republicans because he can't default on the debt. he will have to compromise between now and february. second of all the baseline gets reset if the tax cuts expire. everybody will propose a tax cut in january and right now we're fighting whether to increase taxes or not. you can see possibility of a deal seen as win-win for both sides. third, if republicans don't come up with a deal, a bad deal right now, they still have the $800 billion in revenue they put on the table from limiting deduct
we would go over the fiscal cliff, if there is no deal. john boehner shot back saying that reid needs to talk less and legislate more. but really this comes down to working out, cobbling together something that can get support. president obama wants that tax cut threshold to be at $250,000. well, mitch mcconnell poured some cold water on that yesterday. so they need to come to some sort of agreement on where the threshold would be. we don't know what it would be yet in the senate. >> 250,000 for the democratic side and republicans couldn't even agree on a million. that's a $750,000 gap they have to close. let's hope they do that. thank you. >>> commanders in chief past and present paying tribute to retired general norman schwarzkopf this morning. the commander of coalition forces during the gulf war died yesterday at 78. schwarzkopf was the face of military briefings during the first cable news war. former president george h.w. bush who is hospitalized, said the general was a true american patriot, one of the great military leaders of this generation. >>> new york city police are look
no deal? >> it is, and we're talking about the fiscal cliff. we are really dealing with is the fiscal fraud. we fell f the cliff along time ago. we are in the best, $16 trillion in debt. a debt our children and grandchildren will never be able to pay off, a total fraud, not dealing with spending, and unle they do we are not going to fix the problems is a country is facing. tom: same point, i mean, is this something that will start tuesday or have businesses and individuals already started be having different because of the fact that this whole process was coming up in addition to what the congressman was talking about? >> certainly was tree has been reacting to this, but i very much disagree about the causes. that is when we extended tax cuts do so wealthy individuals in 2001 and three did not need themnd then we saw an incredible decrease in revenue as a result of wall street tanking our economy in the 2008 economic downturn. it's not an issue so much of expanding -- expanded spending. spending is not a control. what is happening is revenue has declined. we need to not only increase
negotiating the fiscal cliff deal. the work they're still trying to get done. the first call comes from lee in florida. caller: i tried to call in yesterday, but everybody was concerned about this matter. let me give you a website that i have been e-mail in over 400 people. it is the website -- you go to search "cause of war." this is the biggest cover up by all of the politicians of their in washington, d.c., including both bushes and of mr. obama. host: and what does this have to do with the senate negotiating a fiscal of deal? caller: let me tell you something. if you go to the website listed on the left and upper side, united states -- each tax coming out of each state is going towards the or. -- war. i believe all of these politicians, mayors, governors should take a half cut pay to pay down the deficit. host: we are going to move on to darwin on the line for independents. caller: it is like the pentelikon, back in 1968 i was even fighting with the pentagon over budgets. you always had to have everything kept the same. nobody was going to change anything because next year there were go
pass a deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff, but is that optimism justified even if the senate can can come together and craft a deal? a very big if at this point and what are the chances that house speaker john boehner can get members of his congress to go along with the deal. joining me now perry bacon and lynn sweet. i want to start with you because i read something that you wrote an article recently in which you said basically that the rumors of the tea party's demise have been greatly exaggerated noting their key role in refusing to go along with john boehner's tax plan to raise taxes on those making more than $1 million a year. the fiscal cliff debate has illustrated then during influence of the tea party and the power of the conservative party. boehner can't guarantee that his members won't face primary challenges from the right so there's little surprise they won't follow his lead. >> mcconnell's not going agree to something that all other republicans are opposed to because he's a republican, too, and he has to worry about a primary, potentially, as well. the core of this i
back because of the fiscal cliff. they're coming back in case there is a potential deal, in case there is something to debate and discuss. now, there are other things they can do if there is no fiscal cliff deal. namely hurricane sandy supplemental might need work, also work on the farm bill, also overdue. there are other things, plenty of business to work open, but the truth is they're coming back because of the fiscal cliff, in case there might be a deal, and also to show that they're working until the last minute. >> lisa, i love you, but you just depress me. >> oh, no! >> i know. >> have faith. have faith. honestly, it is not -- these guys are best at the last minute. i think we're far from the last minute, though it feels that way to a lot of people. especially the unemployed losing their benefits tomorrow. it is a serious matter. they're best at the last minute and they're not there yet. >> we shall see. >> try to smile. >> i'll try. i'm sure many americans are trying as well. >>> we talked about the effect of hitting the fiscal cliff on american taxpayers. what about busin
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intractable debate and that's the fiscal cliff. congress has left town and there's no deal here. senator schumer, the president is now proposing a smaller deal. are we going to avoid the fiscal cliff by the first of the year or not? >> i hope so. if you look at the final positions last monday of both the president and speaker boehner, they were this close, they were this close to a solution. the president was about $200 billion higher on revenues, speaker boehner $200 billion higher on spending cuts. out of a $4 trillion budget, that doesn't seem insurmountable. so i hope they would keep talking. my one bit of advice to speaker boehner is this -- you cannot pass a bill with just republicans. on a broad thing like this, you need both and he has put himself with plan b in sort of an impossible position. he has to get these hard right guys to go along with him. if he were to say and the president were to say we're going to pass a bill with a majority of democrats and majority of democrats in the house and senate we could get a mainstream bill. i know he's worried about his speakership but w
vacation to deal with the fiscal cliff, just five days to go until we go over. >> threatening both coasts with workers snubbing up best and final contract offer. >> and more on the home front. we'll have more on the data and whether it can keep one of the best performing sectors of 2012, home builders going in 2013. >> data showing what some experts say is the slowest growth in spending since the 2008 recession. according to mastercard, spending polls units through christmas eve, retail sales rose just .7% from the year before. the national retail federation says it is forecasting a 4% jump in sales. we'll continue to get trickles of data as we progress through this last week. it is still an important week, the final week before the new year in terms of retail sales for these guys. >> historically positive the last five days of the year and blends into the first couple of days of the new year. generally get a nice year-end effect. we'll get claims tomorrow. new home sales tomorrow. chicago pmi on friday. but this idea that retail is soft, was it the fiscal cliff? was it sandy? was it some
? >> happy friday. >> there we go, happy friday. listen, this fiscal cliff deal, everyone is so sick of hearing the phrase. i it talked to several this week, members of congress and members of the senate who indicate we're going over the cliff. they say it won't be that bad. don't worry about it. there's something in me that wonders about the psychological impact of just going right over. >> mike, you're right. they are saying that, and there's a real risk especially in the white house. they know that the reaction of the markets, especially overseas, the credit raters is unpredictable. you don't want to start your second term with a double-dip recession. that's the real risk here. for republicans more and more you hear them saying and i think this is what you're refer to here. you hear them saying, let's just wait until people get their first paycheck. wait until they get that pay economic when there's less withheld and there's not a payroll tax holiday but then they want tax relief. it's a huge risk. another political game at play here. sherman has a great story on the sight right t
gloomy about the chances for a compromise deal on the fiscal cliff. >> nine days to get a deal done. house speaker boehner is in ohio. president obama in hawaii. >>> today we say aloha to an american hero, the late senator daniel inouye was remembered with full military honors in hawaii. the 88-year-old senator lost his arm in world war ii, he represented hawaii in washington for more than 50 years. president obama and the first lady attended today's service. the president has said inouye was his earliest political inspiration. >>> many gun shop owners say sales have been booming. thousands of north texans visited local gun shows and stores this weekend where the most powerful weapons are costing more than ever. a gun dealer told our affiliate that an assault style weapon ran around $900. this week anywhere from 1500 to $2500 many in just a few minutes my conversation with a gun shop owner, several former police officers and a school safety expert who says the current call for bringing guns into schools for safety is in his words, borderline insane. >>> an estimated 87 million ameri
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